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And the fact that there is rarely an equivalent conversation about what men should be taught not to do.
And now the criminal investigation has actually been reopened, so clearly there is more to this case than “the facts are wrong, end of story.”
So if you want to make a clarification post, go ahead. But please clarify something I actually got wrong.
And if your response to an entire discussion about sexual violence is to focus on correcting a distinction I already made, while saying there is “no argument,” then I think you’ve completely missed the argument.
The essay was never only about Cornell. I used that case to discuss a much bigger issue: women having to constantly calculate danger, the way sexual violence is treated, the entitlement some men have toward women’s bodies, the endless rules women are given to “stay safe,”
So telling me to “recheck the facts” because the guys received more punishment than essays is strange when I already acknowledged that in the piece
The point of that paragraph was not “Cornell punished everyone with essays.” The point was that, according to the lawsuit, some of the accused were given the opportunity to mitigate their punishment through essays. Cornell has disputed that essays were a sole consequence, but it has also confirmed expulsions and suspensions. Both things can be true.
But I’m genuinely trying to understand your point here.
Are you saying my facts are wrong, or are you trying to defend the punishment they received? Because those are two very different arguments.
I literally said “some of the accused students were given the chance to write essays to reduce their punishment.” I did not say essays were the ONLY punishment. In the very next sentence, I wrote that Cornell said the essays were not the only punishment and that some students were suspended or expelled
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You’ve answered him beautifully
The other "punishments" they got was expulsion and suspension. Do you really think writing apology essays, getting suspended and/or expelled is enough punishment for gang r@ping a woman? If you do think that as a man then you're proving the writer's point quite unquestionably.